Law and Order
"Thin Ice"
L&O, Episode 11.08
Production number: E1310
First aired: 20 December 2000
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Teleplay By
Barry Schindel & Matt Witten

Story By
Bernard Goldberg

Directed By
Jace Alexander


The killing of a school-hockey coach leads to a case in which the defendant claims that he committed the crime while suffering from "sports rage."


Main cast

Recurring cast

Guest cast

  • Geoff Wigdor as Keith Taylor
  • Harley Venton as Raymond Taylor
  • Noel Wilson as Jake Arnold
  • Isabel Glasser as Patty Taylor
  • George Guidall as Bertram Dobbs
  • George T. Odom as Bobby Williams
  • Pamela Stewart as Carmen Crider
  • Peter Lewis as Parent
  • Lois Markle as Kali Doxiadis
  • Nik Tyler as Josh Felder
  • Nicholas Gould as Arnold Felder
  • Dana Smith as Naomi Felder
  • Gary Cowling as Bob Mele
  • Jesse McCartney as Danny Driscoll
  • Nancy Ticotin as Alma Nogales
  • Judy Del Giudice as Rose McCutcheson
  • Lexie Sperduto as Nicole Lippman
  • Lynda Ashe as Laura Lippman
  • Frank Guy as Forperson
  • John H. Tobin as Russell Crider (uncredited)
  • Tim Carr as Courtroom Reporter (uncredited)



  • Jack McCoy (during his closing argument): Are we really prepared to create a society in which nobody is responsible for controlling their anger?
  • Nora Lewin: When my niece was younger, she used to play soccer. I remember all the parents screaming at each other on the sidelines. Insanity is a pretty good description of their behavior, but it's not a legal excuse.
  • Nora Lewin: What did Dr. Skoda say?
  • Jack McCoy: That just because someone gets real mad doesn't mean they're insane.
  • Jack McCoy: The law says your right to rage ends at the other guy's nose.
  • Ed Green: (Referring to dead victim in parking garage.) Guy stuck his car in a garage, thought he was safe.
  • Lennie Briscoe: He forgot the high cost of parking in Manhattan.

Background information and notes

Episode scene cards

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Communications Division
One Police Plaza
Monday, October 18

Office of Bob Mele
Walcott High School
Thursday, October 21

Apartment of
Mr. & Mrs. Ray Taylor
618 West 157th Street
Friday, October 22

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Forensic Sound Lab
One Police Plaza
Tuesday, October 26

Apartment of
Mr. & Mrs. Arnold Felder
583 West 163rd Street
Monday, November 1

Supreme Court
Trial Part 73
Tuesday, December 14

Supreme Court
Trial Part 73
Tuesday, December 17

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