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Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! AwesomeTakashi (talk) 09:00, July 2, 2015 (UTC)


Blurry photos are not acceptable. Get better ones. Thank you.

Bold names

Please don't forget to do that whenever creating a new article. Thank you.

Episode summaries

I tried telling you this before, but you callously deleted my original message. So I will reiterate: ALWAYS watch the episodes in question before creating any character articles complete with summaries. Your Teddy Hawkins article had glaring inaccuracies, so I had to fix it.

I don't see how deleting a message is seen as callously but okay. Just to let you know, this is MY talk page, so I can do what I want with it. I remember I left a message on your page if you are who I think you are (can't be 100% certain as you haven't signed your name), but you deleted my message, so what I think is a bit of double standards on your behalf. But I honestly can't be bothered fighting. I'd prefer if you didn't call my actions on my page callous as, like I said, it's my page and when you do the same, yet argue about it, it's rather hypocritical. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 06:25, June 30, 2018 (UTC)

Hell's Kitchen vs. Hell's Kitchen (SVU)

Next time you create an episode article, please check if there's already an existing article with the same title first. Given the number of articles on this wiki and the expansive universe we're dealing with, chances are there'll be at least one or two articles with the same name. I had to fix everything regarding Hell's Kitchen (SVU). Please be more considerate of that next time. Season Fourteen (talk) 06:11, October 13, 2018 (UTC)


Okay why do you keep undoing my Edits!

Okay fine but Patton still beat up two police officers which still makes him a double Cop-Assailant.

Can’t argue with that point. Just do better editing and learn to put spaces in your categories Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:48, January 15, 2019 (UTC)

Okay why did you edit trudy Malko?!

Your editing was absolutely attrocious. She is in no way a terrorist, that is a ridiculous statement. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 07:13, January 17, 2019 (UTC)

Okay fine I see that now it's just she nearly infected the whole city of New York with measles.

1. You forgot to sign your comment.
2. "Nearly" infecting a whole city (by accident) without taking any lives does not account for terrorism. DeputyDee (talk) 14:30, January 20, 2019 (UTC)

Category names

Next time you create a category about victims of certain crimes, please name it "[blank] Victims", not "Victims of [blank]". Season Fourteen (talk) 06:42, April 17, 2019 (UTC)

Fandom Wiki Manager For Law and Order Wiki

Hey Ryanfellowsfitts23! My name is HighJewElfKing, and I'm the Fandom Wiki Manager for Law and Order. My job is to help the community and be a liaison to full-time Fandom staff. If you ever got a question or issue relating to the wiki, editing, etc., please contact me on my talk page and I'll do my best to help you out! :) I also encourage you since you’re a very active contributor to consider adoption for this wiki if you need help with that process, don’t hesitate to let me know! HighJewElfKing (talk) 06:03, May 18, 2019 (UTC)

It’s a pleasure to meet you and great that we finally have a manager for the wiki. I’d be more than happy to adopt this wiki. Thank you for the incredible honour. I’m looking forward to working with you. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 23:58, May 18, 2019 (UTC)
I would highly urge you to reconsider this offer, sir/ma'am. Ryanfellowsfitts23 has had a history of inserting false information into articles that he creates. For example, he created an article on Tony Kelly, a character who appeared in the SVU episode Revenge. I watched that episode afterwards and had to fix a lot of the content that he presented in his first go. In another example, he filled in an article on Michelle Osborne, a character who appeared in the SVU episode Birthright. Having seen that episode at least twice before, I knew the information he implemented was false and/or incomplete. Thus, I had to make fixes to that article too.
This and a number of other similar instances have led me to believe that he has not fully watched the episodes in question, or he may simply be using outside sources for his information. Though he has made good contributions in terms of categories, I don't trust him when it comes to creating articles and summaries. Someone like that is not yet fit to become an admin for this Wikia, in my honest opinion. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:09, May 19, 2019 (UTC)
Who, may I ask, do you think you are to judge whether I am fit to be admin or not? Those edits were done a year ago and I believe I have grown as an editor and I am extremely offended by your outrageous and hurtful beliefs. Your edits are not that flash either. You constantly remove good edits from other users, such as myself. A lot of notable Season 20 characters have had their content cut down dramatically. Why don’t you step forward and fix such edits if you believe they are so bad. I have lost all respect for you. Considering I have tried very hard, I am appalled by your thoughts. Do not judge me as an editor. Regardless of what you think, I will continue to apply for admin as that is not for you to decide. There are a lot of things that you could do better yourself. So look at your own flaws before you judge mine. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 04:48, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
You have been the only one to create articles for Season 20 characters, and I've been trimming those articles down for the exact reasons I've described. I don't believe you are trustworthy when it comes to accuracy. Quite recently, you did create an article for Joshua Hensley, and you referred to him as a serial rapist, but after reading reviews of Dearly Beloved, both professional and user-generated, I realized that turned out to be false. The summary also had to go for concerns of inaccuracy. I haven't stepped forward to edit articles yet because I don't have the time right now. I'm quite busy IRL. But I have every intention of watching Plastic when I have the time and then fill in missing information first. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:57, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
A serial rapist is one who commits a rape more than once. Same with murder. At least that’s what I was taught in school. And you are right, I am the only one adding character profiles. Same with upcoming episodes and upcoming seasons. I add them hours after being confirmed while, may I add, you happen to be inactive. Nobody else seems to do it and it takes five minutes at most. I am also updating the episode count for the main characters.Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:05, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
Yes, but here, if there are only two confirmed victims, then the criminal is just a double rapist, not a serial rapist. That was decided by admins a long while back. It's like how a serial killer is defined as having three or more victims, otherwise they'd just be a double murderer. Unless you're telling me fans and reviewers alike somehow missed the presence of other victims beyond the ones featured in the episode, double rapist is the more accurate pathology to describe Hensley. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:08, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
Very well, if admin have decided that, then I can’t argue with that. And no I am not telling you that at all, I watched the episode. I just put what I was taught in school to believe. But seeing as the admin want it differently, then let it be. Either way, I believe the work I do is good and I don’t think you should be the one to tell admin whether I become admin or not. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:44, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
But I do have a right to share my concerns about one's work ethic. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:47, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
As you do, but there are ways of doing it. I have some concerns about some things you do but I do not wish to tell them seeing as both of us are running for admin at this stage.Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:52, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
Yes, there are ways of doing it, and I'm using them all: going to the talk page. Season Fourteen (talk) 06:01, May 20, 2019 (UTC)

Adoption Update

Hello Ryanfellowsfitts23, I just wanted to follow up and let you know that I did make a mistake the other day, this wiki is NOT available for adoption as it has a semi-active Bureaucrat already he is Renegade54. Please reach out to me if I can do anything for you as the Law and Order Wiki Manager! HighJewElfKing (talk) 22:22, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

That’s perfectly fine. Thank you so much for letting me know. If you ever need me, I’m right here Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:00, May 22, 2019 (UTC)

Something I noticed

I noticed that whenever you create new articles, you create them without categories first and then add them afterwards in a second edit. Why do you keep doing that? Season Fourteen (talk) 05:09, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

Usually I put the categories down in the bottom of the article once the page is published as I find it easier to do that and I can just tap an article suggestion and go. It’s not a problem is it? Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:12, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
Yes, there is a problem, because there's just no reason for you to do it that way. You can just add the categories in the sidebar. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:16, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
Can’t imagine how it would matter if I chose to do something that contributes to the wikia a different way. I’ll stick with what I’m used to, thanks. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:18, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
Why do you do it that way? It accomplishes nothing. You're just putting in unnecessary boosts to your edit count. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:19, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
If you're not going to use the sidebar, at least do what you do in the same edit as when you're creating the article. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:22, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
You are making a huge deal out of something very small, which I find very unprofessional for someone with an admin role. I am not trying to boost my edit count at all, I don’t care about my edit count. This isn’t Instagram. I don’t see why you would care so much about something so small? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk • contribs).
Then can you please give a more in-depth explanation as to why your method is supposed to be easier than the methods that I've suggested? Season Fourteen (talk) 05:43, July 28, 2019 (UTC)
I shouldn’t have to explain my editing methods to you or anyone. Please stop Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 06:36, July 28, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Tobias Moore

Having just watched Plastic, I can say with certainty you cannot be trusted with creating accurate character articles. You incorrectly referred to Heath Barron and Cici Taylor as serial rapists when they actually had only one confirmed rape victim. All of the other potential victims in the episode said the sex was consensual and those claims were never revisited by the end of said episode. As a result, we have to assume there were never any other rapes, just that of Ava Parcell.

I'm not going to try and place doubt again over whether you watched that episode, but it's concerning to see a pattern of inaccurate information coming from you with every character article you create. This is probably the fifth or sixth time I found inaccurate info in an article you created, hence why I keep removing the summaries you write. It's the best I can do for otherwise good and useful articles, as opposed to just outright deleting them and starting over from scratch.

If you are indeed watching the episodes you are writing about, I advise you to watch and listen closely, because even little nuances can determine the accuracy of information you're trying to convey. Season Fourteen (talk) 07:50, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

It seems rather obvious that they raped those women but I’ll have to go with what you have said as you are the admin. I find concerning a rather huge exaggeration. We are talking about a wiki here, not a school or college exam. To use the word concerning is rather exaggerating which I once again find unprofessional on your behalf. And don’t insinuate I’m not watching the episodes or not listening closely. I find it obvious you don’t like me. That does not bother me in the least. Your feelings toward me do not affect my self esteem. What affects my already low self esteem, which is low due to the three years of sexual abuse I suffered from the hands of my father, is you embarrassing me to several higher authorities about my editing publicly and intentionally using exaggeration and sarcasm when talking to me. Just because you are an admin does not give you the right at all to embarrass me and put me down. That’s an abuse of your role in my honest opinion.Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:19, October 7, 2019 (UTC)
Um, how is it obvious all those other women raped? There are actually fetishes out there that would require the compromising position to look exactly like rape, as unusual and disturbing as it sounds. We also have to think like lawyers while writing this Wikia. (It's a Wikia about the legal system, after all.) If we're never going to see any of these women retract their claims that the sex was consensual, or any other evidence that would totally discredit the claims of consent, then we're going to have to assume that's the episode's final word on it and that Heath and Cici are innocent in those allegations.
I will provide you with an example that has preceded both of us: Mitch Wilkens. It was strongly implied in Soulless that he killed his landlady, but because it was never confirmed, all mentions of Wilkens being culpable for that murder were removed from the article. (If you feel like there's also a problem with what that user did, I suggest contacting them; they're still active judging by their edit history.) Season Fourteen (talk) 07:05, October 7, 2019 (UTC)


Please don't forget to add the DEFAULTSORT tags at the end of every character article. They're needed to organize category pages and determine every article's position in said pages. Season Fourteen (talk) 07:11, October 25, 2019 (UTC)

Apologies, sometimes I forget. I’ll try to remember in future. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 07:59, October 25, 2019 (UTC)

Photos again

First off, I'm not sure why you keep making new photos for characters every time an episode airs. Cases like Simon Marsden, where the character has made an appearance on a show for the first time in years, are definitely acceptable, but when you're replacing the photos for characters such as Noah Porter-Benson and Katriona Tamin on a weekly basis, the need for these new photos is absolutely nonexistent. If a current main or recurring character switches actors or enough time has passed to make the original photos outdated (e.g. the character looks noticeably different compared to five years ago or perhaps last season in some cases), that would be acceptable too. But I'm not seeing either rationale here.

Second off, I'm going to give you a pro photo tip. Instead of taking more time to submit a photo in a new file, you can overwrite an old photo with a new one. You can do this by clicking the photo in question, clicking the file name (which is a link), going to "File History", clicking "Upload a new version of this file", and ta-da! You can upload a new photo in the place of the old one. I will do this with your old Katriona Tamin photo as an example. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:53, November 2, 2019 (UTC)

Did you not see the photo tip I gave you? Season Fourteen (talk) 06:54, November 16, 2019 (UTC)
Oops, no I didn’t. Apologies, my fault. Will remember for future. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:20, November 17, 2019 (UTC)
What happened with Evan Braun? Season Fourteen (talk) 06:53, March 13, 2020 (UTC)

Katriona Tamin

Hi! I tried to edit the page of Katriona Tamin and User: Season Fourteen undid it, telling me to talk to you about it. Sooo... I saw that the page refers to Kat as a detective, but she is an officer. It is not the same. She is clearly presented as a "white shield", referred to as "Officer Tamin", identify herself as such (including the last aired episode) and wear a white shield (as opposed to the golden shield of detectives).

I re-watched all the episodes she appears in and I am pretty confident that she is still an officer. Maybe I missed something, and if it's the case, please, correct me.

I am a newbie to wiki but I have good intentions and thought that the precision was worth it. EiwenMacLor (talk) 21:36, November 8, 2019 (UTC)

Technically, she would be a detective as she has investigated cases with the Special Victims Unit, the referring as officer are possibly errors on the showrunners part. Thanks heaps for your interest though and verifying it with me. It’s great that some people are keen to help out with the wiki and try and contribute to the wiki to make it a more reliable source of information. Please don’t hesitate to ask me any more questions if you have any more :) Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 22:20, November 8, 2019 (UTC)
I really don't think that this is a mere error from the showrunners. When Liv asks for some reinforcement for her unit she expects a detective and her superior tells her that this will be a "white shield" (which is the name given to officers within NYPD, because their badges are silver and not golden).
Later Katriona identifies herself clearly as "Officer Tamin".
My theory is that she is an officer, who was already working for the Vice unit (another investigative squad) in order to obtain a promotion to detective rank through experience. Indeed, the NYPD policy is that: "Promotion from "police officer" to "detective-investigator" is based on investigative experience. Typically, a police officer who is assigned to investigative work for 18 months will be designated "detective-investigator" and receive the gold shield and pay increase commensurate with that designation". I think that Kat falls within those 18 months. Olivia was hoping to have a seasoned detective and her hierarchy sent her an "officer - detective in training". Kat will become detective (or at least should if everything goes well) but she is still not one. 
I am not trying to pick a fight here, it's just that I think that the fact she is still an officer and is on tracks to be a detective could be a big part of her character development, so it would be interesting to note she's actually not a detective yet. Though of course I'm just a newbie, I won't insist more than necessary on this matter. Again, really not trying to pick a fight. ;)  EiwenMacLor (talk) 23:05, November 8, 2019 (UTC)
No, no, no, no fight indicated at all. You do make a great point and it’s one that I’m glad has been brought to my attention. I have just watched the recent episode on my laptop as I’m from Australia and I have to stream new episodes online. I noticed the officer part and Katriona has done some officer related work. I think I’ll wait until the next episode to when Hyder is promoted to main cast to make an edit as then, we’ll definitely know a lot more and considering every main law enforcement officer on the series has been a detective, it makes sense to keep her as a detective for now. This time next week, we’ll definitely know more clearly about her role on the show. Thank you once again for bringing it to my attention, you have brought up some really good points about her role on the show and I hope you enjoy editing on the wiki :) :) Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:14, November 9, 2019 (UTC)
Since it's been a few weeks (and hopefully you've gotten the chance to catch up), can we update Ofc. Tamin's page with the rank of Officer instead of Detective without having them undone within hours?  Thanks for your input. Little kingsfan2005 (talk) 06:45, December 6, 2019 (UTC)  
I disagree. Season Fourteen (talk) 07:13, December 6, 2019 (UTC)
I appreciate how enthusiastic you are about editing but I think that Season Fourteen should be the one with the say. He is admin and seems to be the one that has the final say in most edits. Is there any in show proof or word from Hyder or the show crew that states she is officer and not detective? Such statements are commonly found on Twitter. If there is substantial proof, then I think that Season Fourteen and anyone who disagrees is ruled out. Of course note that in several episodes, such as Birthright, Olivia Benson called herself a police officer to the victim instead of referring herself as a detective. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 02:18, December 7, 2019 (UTC)
I also recommend searching for official interviews and trying to examine the dialogue they use when describing the characters. Also, in response to EiwenMacLor's case about the amount of time it takes for one to be classified as "detective-investigator", we have to remember that we're talking about a show written to entertain, so sometimes facts, even the minor ones, will have to be shafted to ensure episodes work, unintentionally or otherwise. I'm super-confident every show in this entire franchise has made a plethora of errors in regards to how the criminal justice system works. It's not our job to correct them for the sake of clarity. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:01, December 7, 2019 (UTC)

Photos once again

Hey! I'm not sure how you're getting character photos, but I've noticed they sometimes tend to be pretty tiny. As a result, the infobox tries to enlarge them so they could fit within the "Image" field, but that also results in the photos appearing awfully blurry. In my experience, photos need to be (ideally) a minimum of 248px x 248px in size for little to no blurriness to appear. Smaller photos can be acceptable, but they need to be at least close to those dimensions. Season Fourteen (talk) 06:32, November 29, 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try find different sources for some pictures. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 06:44, November 29, 2019 (UTC)
How do I exactly measure the dimensions on an iPhone? What app do you recommend or is there a setting? Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 06:45, November 29, 2019 (UTC)
I don't know anything about that. The photos I upload come from outside sources. I don't make photos of my own. Season Fourteen (talk) 06:50, November 29, 2019 (UTC)
You really need to find a different way to get photos, because your screenshots are usually blurry. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:16, January 18, 2020 (UTC)
There is absolutely nothing wrong with these pictures I have found. They all come from official sites. I don't see any blurs in any of them and you have definitely allowed much worse. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 03:18, January 18, 2020 (UTC)
Examples? I probably didn't notice those. Also, which official sites are you talking about? You're still using JPEG files, which made me believe you were still using your usual method. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:20, January 18, 2020 (UTC)
The photos ideally need to be JPG files for little to no blurriness. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:21, January 18, 2020 (UTC)
I always use my phone. My laptop is basically slow and almost dead so I only use it to view new TV show episodes once they finish airing. The Chuck Inslow one came from Tom Coiner’s official site and the Dara Miglani came from either the official SVU twitter page or the SVU Writer’s Room twitter page, something around that line. But definitely a verified SVU page. Majority of the pictures come from such sources as imdb, videos on Youtube, Dailymotion and other video streaming sites with the highest viewing quality possible and mostly from My Foxtel, Australia’s cable TV provider’s mobile streaming app, which I get for free with my Foxtel cable TV subscription. It broadcasts season 5-19 and has currently the latest ten episodes from the three seasons it currently airs as well as the past season if the current season hasn’t aired 10 episodes yet. Foxtel is currently airing seasons 8, 15 and 19. Free to air is broadcasting Season 20, with Season 21 premiering on Thursday. All repeats that air on free to air are available to stream for a week after airing on TV, whereas a new episode stays on for five weeks. Season 20 is currently airing on free to air. I think that explains enough. As for those pictures, there is very little blurriness especially with the Dana Miglari picture, which is crystal clear. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 04:30, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

Tom Landricks photo

It has come to my attention that the photo you posted for the Tom Landricks article is not of Tom Landricks, but rather another character who appeared in the episode, named James Randall. I don't recall seeing Resilience, so I'm going to have to ask if that is true. Season Fourteen (talk) 23:56, March 22, 2020 (UTC)

Bizarrely enough, I don't remember adding the picture. However, if it has been brought to your attention that it's someone else, then perhaps the picture should be removed from the article. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 23:57, March 23, 2020 (UTC)
Well, according to the photo history, you uploaded the photo in 2018. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:11, March 24, 2020 (UTC)
2018 is a long time ago. If I did upload it in 2018, and I'm not denying I did, you can't possibly expect me to remember something small like uploading a picture two years ago. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 04:55, March 24, 2020 (UTC)
That was just in response to you saying you don't remember adding the picture. Season Fourteen (talk) 07:53, March 24, 2020 (UTC)

Dance Lies and Video Tape title

It has now come to my attention that the title for Dance Lies and Video Tape is actually "Dance, Lies and Video Tape", which is being used on the official NBC site. What was your source for the original title, and would you say it is more reliable than the official site? Or not? Season Fourteen (talk) 22:32, March 30, 2020 (UTC)

I was not aware that was the official title and that would explain my confusion for the title's bizarre title. My source was Twitter, mainly SVUDiehards and Warren Leight. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 22:36, March 30, 2020 (UTC)
So Warren Leight himself tweeted the original title? Interesting. What about SVUDiehards? Is that a fan account? Or is it the official show account? Season Fourteen (talk) 22:37, March 30, 2020 (UTC)
Also, what exactly did they tweet? Was it just text? Or did they show a photo of the screenplay that had the title on it? Season Fourteen (talk) 22:38, March 30, 2020 (UTC)
SVUDiehards is a fan account but is the biggest one of Twitter as well as the most reliable one out there and I have used it for just episode titles and air dates plus episode descriptions when they post them from reliable sources and have used them for just that for the wiki since Season 18 and they have not gotten anything wrong as far as I remember and are quick to update scheduling changes, which they recently did with the last two episodes of Season 21. Definitely worth checking out. As for the title, it would be a tweet. I have not seen any screenplay for any episode this season except for Episodes 1 and 16. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 22:44, March 30, 2020 (UTC)
Would you mind linking Warren Leight's tweet? Planning to use it for this little mix-up. Season Fourteen (talk) 22:50, March 30, 2020 (UTC)
Just tried looking for it but could not find it. But past tweets have shown that the episode title was mistaken for the latter without the comma. If you want, I can provide the tweet to confirm it. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 22:56, March 30, 2020 (UTC)
Sure. I'll see what I can do with those. Season Fourteen (talk) 23:00, March 30, 2020 (UTC) Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 21:22, April 1, 2020 (UTC)

SVU: Episode: Anihilated: Malcolm Royce

Im curious if You have free Acess to this Episode becuz I have some questions becuz most events are non-sense in my Opinion?(Rajaram12345678910 (talk) 16:57, April 20, 2020 (UTC)).

If you are in Australia, Seasons 8-10 are on Amazon Prime Video as well as Australia's cable service Foxtel available to stream. In America, I know every episode is on Hulu. Other countries, I wouldn't know. I don't really think you should stream it for free unless it's not available on DVD or on a streaming service. I only stream Season 21 episodes once they air in America as they're always behind in Australia. What exactly doesn't make sense? What events are you referring to? Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 03:26, April 21, 2020 (UTC)

Robert Prescott

So I see that you changed the page, Robert Prescott to Robert Prescott (actor), could you change Robert Prescott into a disambiguation page because I want to do so but I am afraid that I will mess something up for some reason. Randomgamer111 (talk) 16:23, May 25, 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have no idea how to do it unfortunately. You could try asking Season Fourteen, he knows how to do it. You're doing an excellent job on the wiki btw. :) Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 22:38, May 26, 2020 (UTC)

Law & Order: Organized Crime

On March 31, 2020, Wolf announced that the spin-off series has ordered for NBC to launch in the 2020–21 television, with Christopher Meloni reprising his role as Elliot Stabler, who left SVU nine-years later. The series will consist of 13 episodes.] On June 2, 2020, it was announced that the series would be called Law & Order: Organized Crime and showrunner Craig Gore has been fired.

Wildrose-Wally (talk) 04:32, June 16, 2020 (UTC)

You can find the name of the first episode in the Metadata of this picture.
File:Elliot Stabler in Law & Order- Organized Crime.JPG

LAW & ORDER: ORGANIZED CRIME -- "What Happens in Puglia" Episode 101 -- Pictured: Christopher Meloni as Detective Elliot Stabler -- (Photo by: Virginia Sherwood/NBC)

Wildrose-Wally (talk) 03:04, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


Did you forget the advice I gave to you about overwriting old photos with new ones? Season Fourteen (talk) 07:48, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Nat Phelps and Travis Barstow

Next time you question something about an episode, like whether it was Nat Phelps or Travis Barstow who killed Donald Bazinski, it's best if you ask an admin about it first, especially if the article in question has a considerable editing history. Also, you're the one who created the Nat Phelps article, so I'm not sure why you decided to question it now. Season Fourteen (talk) 01:25, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Australia airings of SVU episodes

I'm not sure what's so notable about that country in particular that you would need to mention exactly when and where SVU episodes were aired over there, but I don't see it. We really shouldn't give Australia a special pass for whatever reason while other countries get shafted. Season Fourteen (talk) 10:49, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Well no, we don't have to shaft other countries or ignore them. We can add them too. You might not see why they're not important but they are very interesting pieces of trivia and are part of the episode's history too. If foreign people can find the dates for when episodes aired in their country, then it should definitely be added. We should expand this wiki as much as we can by adding more information not just from the US but from other countries as well. This is a perfect example of what we can add so fans worldwide can learn when certain episodes premiered in their countries. If anything, we certainly should be adding these bits of information for the reason I just mentioned, not removing them. Why remove it just because other countries don't have their air dates on it? If a foreign air date is added, it should definitely be kept on regardless of the country. It's this information that grows, expands and develops our wiki to be bigger and better. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 22:18, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
But what would the interest be in knowing these air-dates? As I said before in my own talk page, the only way this sort of information would be interesting to a reader is if it was the result of a postponement of some sort. Why should people care to know when a certain episode aired somewhere in the world if it's just for the sake of it? It contributes nothing of substantial value. Season Fourteen (talk) 23:24, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Also, your assumption that foreign users will add other air-dates once they find them is clearly unfounded. We don't have any non-Western users on here, and I doubt anyone currently registered here (or reading this, for that matter) has the interest and/or the resources to figure out other foreign air-dates. You've been the only one with an interest in this, and your interest has been confined to Australia, which just so happens to be your home country, thus leading to a conflict of interest. Season Fourteen (talk) 23:53, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Conflict of interest?! Chill, this isn't that deep to the point where this is any conflict of interest or anything of the sort. This isn't some school or care service, it's a wiki so that statement is extremely over the top. You underestimate these sources where TV guides worldwide can show old listings and you certainly underestimate the readers of this wiki and people wanting to look for broadcast dates from their country, either out of interest, nostalgia or even curiosity to see how far apart an episode airs after the US. In fact, in three groups dedicated to SVU I'm in on Facebook, in the past three years, I've seen well over 100 posts of people curious for when an episode premiered in their country. I've also stumbled across several forums and blogs over the past 8 years of being an SVU fan of people curious as to when an episode aired in their country as well as sharing equal interest in guides and airdates. If I have to, I will send several links and/or screenshots of these conversations but I stand by my statement saying that people are interested in this. People want to read this whether you believe it or not and you're removing this which means these people don't get to read and learn. Hundreds of people view this wiki everyday, not just from the US but worldwide. Everything you have just said is completely untrue and if I have to, I will prove it. I've been patient and watched you delete pages I've made, removed information I've added and I've even been civil towards you despite past arguments but this time, I will stand by my edits and I will stand up for what I know is right. Your claims are what you believe but I know I'm right and I will prove that people are interested in this for more than what you stated if I have to. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 04:55, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Okay but I look for the air dates of my special interest tv shows because I like to be thorough in my knowledge about them. Also let’s say my younger cousin was born the day a specific episode aired and I wanted to do something special with that episode and it’s theme for her. That's a comment from someone on Facebook. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:00, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm still extremely unconvinced about the usefulness of this information, but I no longer have the time and energy to debate with you over this. So, I've edited the episode infobox to reflect the British, Canadian, and Australian air-dates of episodes. It's the best I could do, but more countries could be added in if the "need" arises. If you're so insistent about the usefulness of such information, then it should be up in the episode infobox to ensure it is more immediately visible to readers than further down in the trivia section. I've also recommended you to Renegade54 for an administrator position, so you can have official authority on air-dates at the very least. I'm counting on you to fill out all of the new fields in the infoboxes, and not just on SVU, but also on the other shows in the franchise. Don't just limit the scope of this information to only later seasons of SVU in Australia.
FYI, the edits to the infobox NEED to look like this. Otherwise, the air-dates are fair game as long as they're accurate. If you can't figure out some of the air-dates, I strongly suggest you enlist your Facebook friends or whoever you know out there to help you out, or at the very least join this Wikia to assist in the effort. Season Fourteen (talk) 08:02, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Do note that this is sort of brand-new territory for this Wikia, so this whole situation will be pretty fluid for a bit. But please be as thorough about this as possible. International air-dates are not my forte. Season Fourteen (talk) 08:05, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Trust me, this information will help so many people so it's not entirely useless at all. And I appreciate you recommending me for an admin role. I promise I won't let you down. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 23:34, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
If so, I strongly implore you to recruit your Facebook friends or whatever to join this Wikia and contribute these air-dates if they know any. You're the only one here who's been calling for it, so I'm not convinced. Season Fourteen (talk) 23:54, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
Apologies for the late response, we had some wild rainy and windy weather which forced us to evacuate due to flooding, I only just got home. In regards to you still not being convinced, I think that's only an assumption on your part. I don't have any friends from these groups but I will try and recruit editors. Considering this wiki only allows people with accounts to edit, I don't think assuming just editors read and have interest in this wiki is right. A wiki is accessible for everyone worldwide, assuming only editors go on here is ridiculous. We provide information for fans and I know for a fact there are several people who show interest in these dates. I don't think you're aware of this. I go on millions of other wikis to search out of interest or to get information but I don't edit. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
If international air-dates were something that a lot of people wanted, then we would've seen evidence of it by now. The talk pages and blogs are always open for everyone to participate in. And it's not like it's that difficult for someone to register an account here. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:48, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Canadian airings of SVU episodes

In Canada, the airdates for SVU (and most other US shows) are the same as in the US. The main reason for this is if they air later in Canada, most Canadians will have already seen them on US channels, available through Canadian cable companies, and so it would make no sense for a Canadian broadcaster to buy an American show that nobody would watch on the Canadian channel because they seen it already on the American channel. Now when they air simultaneous, the Canadian cable companies substitute the Canadian channel (CTV) for the America channel (NBC) so the Canadians see Canadian advertising and everybody is happy. (Except for the Super bowl, when Canadians want to see the American Super bowl commercials, but get to see the low quality Canadian ones :( ). Wildrose-Wally (talk) 14:45, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Sanjay Patel photo

Hey! It's just come to my attention that the photo you posted of Sanjay Patel isn't actually of Sanjay, but another character named Mohammad Sayeed. Care to explain? Season Fourteen (talk) 02:01, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello? If this really was the wrong photo, then I'm going to need you to correct it when you can. Season Fourteen (talk) 08:18, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello? Do you have a response for this? I'm going to have to delete the photo if you can't or won't clarify if this was the right photo for the character. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:11, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Ripped from the headlines cases

Hey! Just to remind you, because I'm no longer following these new SVU episodes, if you see an aspect about the case-of-the-week that reminds you of a real-life case, please be sure to apply it to the List of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit Ripped from the Headline episodes article when you can. The more real-life cases we catch, the better. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:35, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

I can actually tell the headline rips aren't top priority for you. I've had trouble with trying to go by the cases, and Season Fourteen's exhausted and irritated with me, ThomasBisaschi taking it more personally than necessary, but seeing the logs I've rarely if ever seen your name. But if you're more active on the site, try to keep up to date, and if you'd like to check and hear what I've come up with, would you like to discuss together? Or even talk about the new pages for the episodes I made? Are there any proofs or edits I can help you with? ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 18:16, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


Hello how are you?(Carlos435435435 (talk) 02:18, 18 July 2021 (UTC)).


•    NBC is bringing back one of its most treasured and honored dramas with the 21st season of “Law & Order.” The series, which will continue the classic bifurcated format that was created for its original run, will once again examine “the police who investigate crime and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders.”

MEDIA ALERT: LAW & ORDER | NBCUniversal MediaVillage ([1]

Wildrose-Wally (talk) 23:11, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

Jet Slootmaekers

Just one question, at what point did Jet become a detective? Stabler brought her in as a hacker to help them out. Wildrose-Wally (talk) 19:00, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Character Images

You were adding new images to existing character pages, like Noah Porter-Benson, yes? There are categories for multiple images of main and recurring characters. Speaking for the admins of the site, they'd likely find it of big help if you made categories to compile past and present images of the same characters together if they don't already exist. You should also make sure when you create the category pages, you should add for the categories within those category pages the "Category:Character Images" link. This is so the galleries of images are added to the category tree. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 07:12, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Admin Status

Congrats on your admin status! The site needs more staff, you certainly proved yourself fitting and capable. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 07:40, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Introducing myself

Hey there! Congratulations on becoming an admin, I just wanted to introduce myself. My name's Chris, a Fandom Wiki Representative and I work with admins across Fandom, including on this wiki. If you ever have any Fandom related questions, please do let me know! My talk page and Discord are always open :) --Spongebob456 talk 10:12, 19 November 2021 (UTC)


Hey there! Do you mind giving your input this thread please? Much appreciated! :) --Spongebob456 talk 09:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Haley Kerns and Avery Hemmings photos

Hey! When you have the time, I need you to find different photos for the Haley Kerns and Avery Hemmings articles, specifically ones that don't show a channel logo. Showing official logos on a photo may constitute copyright infringement and land the wiki in hot water. Let me know as soon as it's done. Thank you! Season Fourteen (talk) 23:38, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Oliver Platt page

Hey I know we don't do much about Deadline on this wiki, but what was wrong with the Oliver Platt page?Alsocal (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

List of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit Ripped from the Headline episodes

I have a favor to ask you as an admin. I made two mistakes in the page above, and I'm requesting for if you can correct them. May you please change The Laurie Show case to The Maggie de la Riva rape case in Remorse and change The Samantha Reid case to the Laurie Show case in Consent? The reason I can't do it myself as you may know is Season Fourteen cut out all access except for admins. But it's still a mistake that needs to be fixed. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 04:46, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Maybe you saw Season Fourteen covered that. So I know from you directly and work with you from there, would you be okay with those corrections of mistakes in information and formatting if I requested that of you when necessary? Or are you best with episode and character pages and need me to leave you enough space for that alone? You're another sure on the site trying to do your best where you best do so, I hope to understand what that is to not step all over you there and collaborate with you. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 21:37, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
If you can help me, and it's fine with the other admins, I have another request regarding headline rips: I'm pretty sure I got Club Kids wrong as a rip for Baby Killer, but I can't erase it. I found another rip that's more fitting, but I haven't gotten the official stamp of approval. Khalil Sumpter shot Ian Moore and Thomas Sinkler at Thomas Jefferson High in Brooklyn in '92. The area had high crime rates, including drug rings, so locals and even then-mayor David Dinkins protested for the safety of their neighbors. The Buell school shooting fits the central child murder mystery, but Tom Jeff High fits the dangerous area and resulting protests for peace. As for the specific drug case, I don't know what it is, But i'm certain it's no Club Kids reference. Here are the articles.,,

Candidates for deletion

Can and may you kindly please look through the images I added to the category that don't belong because of their broadcasting network and other logos? ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 04:31, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Video Killed The Radio Star

If you saw the episode, may you clarify the content in the character pages and add the missing details of the episode's playout with each character? I'm confused and don't understand what crimes happened nor enough details to know where it was taken from real life. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 00:31, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

The Right thing deleted scenes

Why did you delete that gallery of deleted scenes from Youtube? I thought they were pretty handy to have. Alsocal (talk) 05:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

I have to agree. It keeps the facts together all on the same site and fully informs the viewers. There are other wikis with the same routines and standards. Though we could also go back to the original formatting in adding the videos in, but it's worth informing whomever it concerns. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 00:09, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Ritual (L&O)

May you please find another screenshot that doesn't have a logo in it? The wiki is strict about copyright infringement, as you already know, and that image is one I caught. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 22:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)


Request of images for the above episode, if you please. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 07:29, 16 April 2022 (UTC)


Hey! Made a post about the new Interactive Maps feature - does L&O Wiki have any maps that could be used for this? --Spongebob456 talk 12:17, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

RFTH submissions

Hey! On the List of Ripped from the headlines submissions, in the Discussion section of some of the entries, would you be able to leave a comment on if you feel they should be added to the articles? Are you interested in doing that? We just would like to get some community involvement so we can decide if they can be added. This isn't mandatory and don't feel forced, just an idea. Thanks! :D --Spongebob456 talk 12:09, 7 May 2022 (UTC)