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Delete tag

If you tag an article to be deleted, please leave the content in the article so it can be evaluated by anyone interested in commenting. Thank you. 31dot (talk) 08:31, April 13, 2018 (UTC)

Red links

Why are you undoing my changes? Just curious. Characters should be linked imo. - Wagnike2 (talk) 15:32, June 14, 2018 (UTC)

Not if they don't have articles and are not notable whatsoever. Season Fourteen (talk) 15:33, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
I don't see the harm in it and the articles could be eventually created. But sure. - Wagnike2 (talk) 15:35, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
They should absolutely NOT be created because they are NOT NOTABLE. Season Fourteen (talk) 15:36, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
I feel like it's unproductive to get into any sort of editing war/discussion when there are no set policies on notability on this Wiki and neither of us are admins. - Wagnike2 (talk) 15:40, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
Well, that much is obvious. Season Fourteen (talk) 15:42, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
So please refrain from undoing my revisions. I will cut back on them, but until we hear from an admin on the acceptability of these or not, it seems overly aggressive to revert. - Wagnike2 (talk) 15:48, June 14, 2018 (UTC)
It's not aggressive, it's common sense. Season Fourteen (talk) 15:56, June 14, 2018 (UTC)


Sorry to bother you but I have a question about "Javier Maranhao". Where is it established that Maranhao is his last name when that was the name of the ship he was stationed on? The name is even stitched into the uniforms of the sailors on the ship including Javier and his friend Marco Evoria. Honestly, I don't think his last name was ever revealed unless you know something I don't. Hito7187199 (talk) 10:58, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

That's right. Maranhao is the name of the ship. Javier's last name remains unknown. User:ThomasBisaschi

I actually got it from IMDb.

If IMDB is your source than it isn't reliable, so I'm going to change it back. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hito7187199 (talk) 18:09, August 10, 2018 (UTC)

FBI Wiki

Hi Season Fourteen, I have seen your work on Law & Order Wiki, your doing good work there. I was wondering if you would be interested to contribute to our FBI wiki. You could be admin and eventually bureaucrat if you so desire. -Wmulder (talk) 00:32, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

It will depend on if I enjoy the show or not in the long term. I will watch the pilot first and see what I can do. Season Fourteen (talk) 00:43, August 15, 2018 (UTC)
It is a Dick Wolf show....gotta be good. I'll make you admin right away. Possibility of bureaucrat very good.

-Wmulder (talk) 01:19, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

Okay, sure. Season Fourteen (talk) 02:15, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, it's good to have good people. :) -Wmulder (talk) 03:34, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:02, August 15, 2018 (UTC)

Could you go into user rights and remove all my rights, please? Thank you very much and good luck with your wiki. :)


New episode title: --Wildrose-Wally (talk) 16:20, August 19, 2018 (UTC)

New Law & Order series coming to NBC

What do you think of that poster?

--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 01:09, September 5, 2018 (UTC)

At first, I thought this wasn't real. But now that I see it is, I don't know what to think of it. Aren't hate crimes already in SVU's forte? (I know sexually-motivated crimes is supposed to be the primary focus of this show, but they've also been doing hate crimes since the very beginning, so...) Season Fourteen (talk) 01:11, September 5, 2018 (UTC)

Judge Connors 5th circuit

The 5th circuit is Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas, this asylum petition was for the mother and would not have been heard in New York.--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 21:26, October 6, 2018 (UTC)

Oh. Oops. Season Fourteen (talk) 21:44, October 6, 2018 (UTC)


Why did you undo my jfk and rfk fact on concpiracy page.

It's starting to get too wordy. Maybe you should cut down on the details. Season Fourteen (talk) 07:13, October 10, 2018 (UTC)

Henry Mesner

Please stop removing the psychopath and sociopath categories from Henry Mesner’s page. Huang clearly states that Henry is a psychopath, as the title of the episode and he also shows zero remorse for his actions towards people and animals, as seen in the last few minutes of the episode. I don’t see how he doesn’t fit into both of those category’s. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:47, October 30, 2018 (UTC)

I removed them because another user, DeputyDee, removed them first and you restored them. If you're wondering why they're being removed, you should ask DeputyDee. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:50, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
I see. Well, I have asked the user why it was removed. For now, I think we should keep the two categories out of the page until DeputyDee can give a reasonable response as to why those categories were removed. I am more than confident those two categories belong there so I will await his reply and will let you know if it’s a good enough reason in my opinion, before adding them again. Personally, I’m interested as to whether you think they belong there or not. If you do, then they surely should be there as you seem to be the most expert wiki editor on this page. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 06:07, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
DeputyDee's been here longer than me so I'm going to defer to their judgment. Season Fourteen (talk) 06:25, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
Well, I did ask him but it seemed that he deleted my comment on his talk page without giving me a response. Since the title is Born Psychopath, indicating the criminal is a psychopath and Henry also shows sociopath traits such as no emotions or remorse for violent actions or animal cruelty as well as feigning being upset, I will add Henry back into the psychopath and sociopath category seeing as I have asked DeputyDee why he removed them. If he can give me a proper response as to why he thinks he’s not, then I don’t think these should be removed as they are probably the most important categories on that page in my honest opinion. I would prefer if you didn’t remove them unless DeputyDee can give a proper response instead of deleting my question on his talk page, which seems to have gotten him in trouble in the past. Also, I think that it doesn’t matter who’s been contributing to a wikia longer, I think who clearly does a better job at contributing than another person should have the right to say what belongs where. That’s like saying a worker in an office who does sloppy work but has been there longer should get the say of some roles instead of a more experienced worker who does more work in the office and contributes more, as I work with disabled adults and sometimes there are staff that are better than veteran staff. I think these two categories should remain until DeputyDee can give a proper response which he had lacked to do. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 21:50, November 1, 2018 (UTC)
He did give you a response in his edit summary. Check his edit history, you'll see it. Don't revert any further until you two come to a proper consensus. If you have problems with how DeputyDee's handling the situation, go to an admin like 31dot. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:27, November 2, 2018 (UTC)
Only his mental illness made him the psychopath/sociopath Ryanfellowsfitts23 makes him out to be. Plus, Ryanfellowsfitts23 has had a history of adding incorrect categories (such as adding the category children to teenage characters after being repeatedly told that only those under 13 are considered children).
As to why it was rumored I got blocked for undoing edits on my own talk page three years ago, I refused to cater to a vandal (Chrisgreen and its IPs)'s demands. Plus, I had to remove messages that were acknowledged and outdated. But I never got blocked for it (since). DeputyDee (talk) 00:33, November 3, 2018 (UTC)

Eddie Montero

Regarding Eddie Montero's appearances, there was a tweet saying that's a wrap on Montero, so it's more than likely he won't be returning based on that tweet. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 06:02, November 18, 2018 (UTC)

We'll see about that. Season Fourteen (talk) 06:03, November 18, 2018 (UTC)
I don't see how that's possible he'll return seeing as there was a tweet saying that's a wrap on his character. Maybe check Twitter yourself so you can see the tweet. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 06:09, November 18, 2018 (UTC)
Wait till the season ends. You never know. Season Fourteen (talk) 06:10, November 18, 2018 (UTC)


I have blocked you both due to the disruption caused by your edit warring and arguing. If it continues after the block expires, the blocks will get longer. You need to work this stuff out in a civil manner on your own. 31dot (talk) 09:48, November 21, 2018 (UTC)

I would like to protest my block. ThomasBisaschi just cannot seem to decide what he wants to put on an article. He originally said Evan Grant of the O.J. Simpson murder case was a personal trainer for celebrities and I proofread the edit he put in. Then, all of a sudden, he does a 180 and said that was not the case. He has edited so many times on the D-Girl, Turnaround, and Showtime articles that I grew annoyed with having to proofread everything for him, so I removed much of the content he kept on revising.
It's a bad habit he has shown with other articles as well, especially ones he creates, like:
I can understand making perhaps five or so edits in a row per any given day, but when your editing streak on a single article goes about twenty or so, I view the information as sketchy and a liability, hence why I removed the information on D-Girl, Turnaround, and Showtime. All I've been doing is proofreading and correcting ThomasBisaschi's work whenever I could, but if all he does is revise his own information over and over and over again, I can't bring myself to trust his reliability. Season Fourteen (talk) 10:11, November 21, 2018 (UTC)
Do you have anything to say about that...? Season Fourteen (talk) 01:59, November 22, 2018 (UTC)
I have no interest in refereeing the dispute between the two of you. You need to work it out, and if you can't, then you need to leave each other alone until other editors intervene. 31dot (talk) 12:58, November 22, 2018 (UTC)

I have decided that, given that I no longer watch Law and Order or its related shows and much of my time is spent elsewhere, I will stop participating here. As it would be unfair to leave you blocked after I stop my participation, I will lift it. I encourage you to find a way to work out your disagreements with any other user. 31dot (talk) 22:34, November 22, 2018 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Sorry to see you go. I wish you the best. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:55, November 23, 2018 (UTC)

Liz Renaldi

Alright care to explain why you deleted my page pal?!

Do you even know what edit summaries are? Season Fourteen (talk) 20:46, December 13, 2018 (UTC)

About Spiderman925...

After its blatant vandalism in the article concerning James Decker, Maybe we should consider blocking Spiderman925 for no less than six months. It has been causing nothing but trouble. DeputyDee (talk) 03:00, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

That would be great to do if I was an admin... Season Fourteen (talk) 04:15, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Alright what’s the big idea with you Editing my Edits pal!

You're not that very good at writing and formatting. Season Fourteen (talk) 22:17, December 29, 2018 (UTC)
Nor signing your comments. DeputyDee (talk) 22:34, December 29, 2018 (UTC)

Umm why did you edit all my edits?

1. Sign your comments.
2. Because they were wrong and/or poorly formatted. DeputyDee (talk) 04:05, February 1, 2019 (UTC)

Alright I will sheesh.

Why am I not convinced? Season Fourteen (talk) 08:04, February 3, 2019 (UTC)

I said I will!

You have not been an efficient editor since you first came here. I'll believe it when I see it. >:( Season Fourteen (talk) 08:08, February 3, 2019 (UTC)
I will happily back this. He has been warned several times. Surely there is an admin to speak to. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 04:05, February 24, 2019 (UTC)

Original L&O

Could you please spread the word about this blog I posted? I'm hoping for info. Thanks! CEDJunior (talk) 07:52, February 13, 2019 (UTC)

Regarding a users edits

Do you know if there is an admin I can speak to regarding Spiderman925’s edits? They are becoming extremely destructive. He is creating unnecessary categories, adding unneeded categories to characters pathologies and does not have a clue on how to edit. His grammar is also appalling. I have warned him several times but he doesn’t pay notice. I’m not a person that wants to block someone from editing wikis, but he has been warned too many times. Also, he really doesn’t know what proxy means. A thought, but you should try take over 31Dot’s role. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 04:02, February 24, 2019 (UTC)

I think all of the admins here are either retired or inactive. I'll try to apply for admin rights when I have the time. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:09, February 25, 2019 (UTC)
That’s a shame. I think you should definitely apply for admin rights. You would be pretty good, as your edits are top notch. I don’t see a reason why you wouldn’t get it. Either way, something needs to be done about that user. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:00, February 25, 2019 (UTC)

Okay why the hell did you Edit my Edits on Joe Gilbert!? They were all true! And not there not there Garbage you jerk.

Okay answer me why did you edit my edits on joe Gilbert! I was telling the truth! 

Gul The Darkness (talk).

Leon Tate is a sociopath or you tue normal that he tortured animals and had provoked criminal fire. And Malik is rather a psychopath. You act as like you own the Law and Order Wiki.  

Needs explicit confirmation. Season Fourteen (talk) 06:00, March 12, 2019 (UTC)
Season Fourteen has done more to this wiki than you. You should only have one account if you plan on editing the wiki. Your edits are awful. You have no formatting skills, you add unnecessary categories and you’re very hostile towards myself and Season Fourteen when you’re called out on it. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 01:58, March 27, 2019 (UTC)


Just letting you know that Rob Miller will return in the season finale, therefore he is a recurring character. If you do have any objections to adding him to recurring characters, I’d be happy to hear. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 01:54, March 27, 2019 (UTC)

I'd rather we know what the episode title is first before we make such edits. Season Fourteen (talk) 02:03, March 27, 2019 (UTC)
Ok, we’ll stick to that. It does seem like the rather logical way to go considering the episode hasn’t been confirmed as well as the fact that it isn’t really clear as to whether it is a two-part season finale or not. Cheers Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 02:19, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
Also, while we’re on the subject of editing, is there any particular reason as to why you don’t think Olivia Benson and Alexandra Cabot don’t fall under the victims category? Considering thet were both almost murdered and Olivia was kidnapped and almost raped, I certainly see them as victims from my life experience. I’m eager to hear your thoughts. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 02:24, March 31, 2019 (UTC)
The "Victims" category as a whole is redundant and I've been removing it from all articles lately. Season Fourteen (talk) 02:26, March 31, 2019 (UTC)

What's up?

Are you ever gonna to be an admin??? Tawana Smith 45 (talk) 23:58, May 19, 2019 (UTC)

I'm actually in the process of trying to adopt the Wikia. It's still pending. Season Fourteen (talk) 00:11, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
And also, why's your name Season Fourteen? That's kinda funny Tawana Smith 45 (talk) 00:18, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
Just randomly chose it. Season Fourteen (talk) 00:21, May 20, 2019 (UTC)

Adoption Update

Hello Season Fourteen, I just wanted to follow up and let you know that I did make a mistake the other day, this wiki is NOT available for adoption as it has a semi-active Bureaucrat already he is Renegade54. Please reach out to me if I can do anything for you as the Law and Order Wiki Manager! HighJewElfKing (talk) 22:23, May 21, 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I was already made aware of that. Thank you very much, though. :) Season Fourteen (talk) 23:40, May 21, 2019 (UTC)
Hi Season Fourteen, I have backed up your request for admin status on this wiki, as there are no current active admins here. I have also left the FBI Franchise wiki and will be concentrating on the Chicago Franchise and wolf Universe wikis.--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 02:59, June 5, 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw that. Thanks for the backing! :D Season Fourteen (talk) 03:01, June 5, 2019 (UTC)


I had not planned on adding FBI to this wiki, but someone else did so I did some work on it.

Now I will defer to your admin ship, maybe soon you'll have it, maybe not, we'll find out eventually.

I made a page for the FBI Pilot (FBI), If you want me to make a page for all the episodes, let me know. If not also let me know. Please do make changes on the page I made so we can get something uniform across the series, even though it does not necessarily have to look like L&O.

Yes, there are 2 info boxes, you get to pick the one you like. :)

--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 00:35, June 8, 2019 (UTC)

First off, I'm not sure what FBI has to do with L&O. Did they just have a crossover and I wasn't aware of it? If not, then those articles should be deleted immediately because they have no relevance to the franchise whatsoever. Season Fourteen (talk) 00:37, June 8, 2019 (UTC)
I concur with that, but like I said, someone else made the FBI page and I expanded on it. Anyway, I will mark them for deletion.--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 00:46, June 8, 2019 (UTC)
Good choice. Season Fourteen (talk) 00:50, June 8, 2019 (UTC)


I believe the category use is way overdone in probably most of the pages in this wiki. These are the categories posted for Chester Lake:

• Males (yes)
• SVU Characters (yes)
• Special Victims Unit (why this category? he's already a SVU character)
• Detectives (yes)
• Murderers (maybe)
• SVU Main Characters (why have main and former main categories?)
• NYPD Characters (Overstatement, he's already a detective and a former police officer)
• Cop Killers (no, he's a rapist killer, already covered with vigilante. He's not a cop killer, the rapist just happened to be a cop)
• Former Police Officers (maybe)
• Vigilantes (yes)
• Athletes (not in this show)
• Dirty Cops (no, he shot a dirty cop)
• Former SVU Main Characters (why have main and former main categories?)
• Criminals (no)
• Assault Victims (no)

--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 15:02, June 9, 2019 (UTC)

I think the Former SVU Main Characters category is justified. Other than that, yeah, there is overkill when it comes to categories. Season Fourteen (talk) 19:16, June 9, 2019 (UTC)

Admin privs

I've granted you admin privs as requested. Please be judicious in your use of blocking/banning users. In reading previous conversations, I noticed a reference to a six-month block. Blocks should start out short (i.e. a few hours to a day) and then gradually increase if the reason for the block continues after the block is lifted. A six month block should only occur after repeated violations and opportunities to correct the problem. Overt vandalism is a different issue, obviously, but that typically comes from anonymous IPs.

If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out. I've generally used the policies and procedures that we've refined over many years of activity on Memory Alpha for starting points for standards on L&O, so if there's not a specific policy or guideline here, check MA. On the issue of notability that was brought up previously, we've never used notability guidelines like on Wikipedia in the past, either here or on MA. Just the contrary; in the name of completeness, MA has many articles on subjects that would be excluded as non-notable in Wikipedia. My feeling is that we should use a similar approach here.

-- Renegade54 (talk) 16:13, June 10, 2019 (UTC)

Congrats. :)--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 00:08, June 11, 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:26, June 11, 2019 (UTC)


Why did you delete my article and photograph of Patrick Binder from Possessed? And what else of mine have you decided to delete that I might've missed? ----DanTD (talk) 13:13, June 18, 2019 (UTC)

Patrick Binder's not really a notable character. He just appeared in the beginning of the episode where he got attacked and that's it. Season Fourteen (talk) 17:25, June 18, 2019 (UTC)
I agree with DanTD. SeasonFourteen is showing his petulance again and again, just like some on other Wikis, especially American Dad and Family Guy HorseRenoir3 (talk) 02:15, October 28, 2019 (UTC)
I'm not even active on those wikis. What're you on about? Season Fourteen (talk) 02:17, October 28, 2019 (UTC)
The guy was key to catching the man who raped his girlfriend, and I see you deleted an organization in the episode "P.C.." There was nothing wrong with that one either. ----DanTD (talk) 22:14, December 15, 2019 (UTC)
One needs to play a major role in the episode from beginning to end. They need to be involved in the case throughout. That applies to all characters and organizations. We cannot create articles willy-nilly just because we like them. Season Fourteen (talk) 22:20, December 15, 2019 (UTC)

This is Gul The Darkness

But he Martin Schultz behaves very similar to that of a sociopath I'm sure he fits in that category thinks better about it or at least tell me why that Martin Schultz is from that category. 

If it's not confirmed in the show (i.e. someone diagnoses him as such), then it's pure speculation at best. Season Fourteen (talk) 23:36, June 18, 2019 (UTC)

You did a great edit on my SVU change on "Devastating Story".Mlbryant99 (talk) 22:08, June 23, 2019 (UTC)

Chicago Med

Why did you delete Chicago Med? It is in the Law & Order Universe through Chicago P.D. and through that to Law & Order SVU. Please restore this page. --Wildrose-Wally (talk) 02:49, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

There needs to be a direct crossover between those two shows to count. Season Fourteen (talk) 02:52, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
This is what Renegade54 said about the FOUR Chicago Series to someone else who asked:

Hi Aleena, and welcome! :) The scope is really anything that we want it to be. Since most (all?) of the Dick Wolf production seem to share the same fictional universe, those are basically a no-brainer. Homicide, even though it's a non-Wolf production as you mentioned, again seems to share the same universe, as evidenced by the various cross-overs between Homicide and the L&O shows. Deadline again would seem to be a no-brainer to me, even though it's not a police procedural like most of the others. It's both a Wolf production and about the same newspaper that appears in other Wolf shows. Bottom line, I'd have no problem expanding the wiki to include those shows, the four Chicago series, and even outliers like New York Undercover and In Plain Sight, since they all appear to share the same fictional universe. Like you say, one stop shopping. :) -- Renegade54 (talk) 16:37, September 26, 2017 (UTC)

Please restore Chicago Med.--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 02:58, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

I disagree. This is called the Law & Order Wiki, not the Dick Wolf Universe Wiki. It's called that way for a reason, and it doesn't look like Renegade54 has acted on that thought in the almost two years since he's made that post, so it looks like that idea is now moot. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:01, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
Unless you want us to consider a merge of the L&O and Chicago Franchise Wikis, I don't see any other good reason of keeping Chicago Med. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:12, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
Are you going to restore it or do I have to go to the next level to file a complaint?--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 03:25, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
Here's my reasoning: Show A is a spin-off of Show B, which has crossed over with an entirely different show called Show C. However, Show A and Show C haven't had a crossover themselves. And yet, Show A has an article on Show C's Wikia. That doesn't make sense to me, personally.
Allow me to bring in another, more specific example for further clarification on the problem: the recent announcement of Dick Wolf's plans to cross the FBI universe over with the L&O/Chicago universe. So far, it's unknown whether FBI will cross over with SVU or one of the Chicago shows, specifically. If Wolf ultimately decides to cross FBI over with SVU, then it should all be fine, and creating an article on FBI or FBI: Most Wanted will definitely be warranted.
But what if Wolf chose to cross FBI with one or more Chicago shows, and that crossover doesn't have any SVU involvement? Are we really going to create an article of a show from another network on this Wikia, simply because it crossed over with a different franchise that has its own Wikia, but only a few articles here because of said franchise's crossovers with SVU? Is a six degrees of separation-type of scenario really an appropriate reason to create an article on the FBI show for a Wikia specializing in the Law & Order franchise?
I see you're active on a Wikia called the Dick Wolf Universe Wiki. That, I feel, would be better suited for this kind of article organization. But as far as I'm concerned, this is still the Law & Order Wiki, and it should prioritize everything that has appeared in a Law & Order show in some way, not material that is only indirectly associated with the franchise because they've crossed over with a show that has crossed over with an L&O show.
The only ways my position will change is if: 1) You know of an example where a character from the L&O franchise has appeared in Chicago Med; 2) You know of an example where a Chicago Med character has appeared in SVU; 3) SVU and Chicago Med have a crossover; or 4) the L&O and Chicago Franchise Wikis are merged. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:44, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
Also, I thought you already filed a complaint? Season Fourteen (talk) 04:10, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
If that's the way you want to be, I'll take you of the FBI Wiki admin.--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 04:13, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
That's alright with me. I honestly haven't contributed to that Wikia as an admin in months and I don't expect to in the near-future. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:15, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
All done, I'll quit contributing to this wiki and concentrate on the other ones. I generally like the way you clean things up, but you cleaned up too much this time, something I worked on for the past 4 years.--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 04:28, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
Oh, come on, it's just one article! It's not like I'm undoing or criticizing every last edit you're doing here. You're overreacting. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:30, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
I agree with Season Fourteen on the subject of the Chicago shows being on here. The Chicago franchise has its own seperate wiki, one which desperately needs work. I think one page on just the show would suffice. I think any characters crossing over with Chicago shouldn’t be on here as, like Season Fourteen said, this is a Law & Order wiki. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 22:41, June 24, 2019 (UTC)
Chicago Med: 3.01 Speak Your Truth Philip Winchester as Assistant State's Attorney Peter Stone Wildrose-Wally (talk) 15:38, December 14, 2019 (UTC)
IMDb confirms it. Give me a moment to find Med in the deletion log. Season Fourteen (talk) 01:23, December 15, 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. I did correct some minor mistakes in the series and took the list of Episodes off of Chicago Med and left a re-direct to the episodes. Also updated the season and episode counts.Wildrose-Wally (talk) 11:51, December 22, 2019 (UTC)

Graffiti on Nick Amaro page

Thought I’d make you aware that a user named YooSungsboyfriend had made a large amount of vandalism on Nick Amaro’s page. He also has very immature and disturbing content about Nick Amaro on his profile. It might be worth taking a look at. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 22:37, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

Dealt with. Season Fourteen (talk) 22:47, June 24, 2019 (UTC)

SVU page shouldn't be deleted.

Why delete the SVU redirect page? Every SVU episode uses that page to link to the main SVU page. Without that every episode page has a broken link to the SVU page.

Edit: L&O uses the same type of linking. It's in the sidebar episode template. So the template links to the redirect page, which redirects to the correct page, but the redirect page was deleted. Why delete the redirect page?

LeoTehEpic (talk) 04:04, July 25, 2019 (UTC)

I'm trying to find a way around it. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:16, July 25, 2019 (UTC)
So I found a way around it in the sidebar episode template itself (its a bit clunky, but I figured it's ok as a placeholder). 
The thing is...after I did that I noticed that in every single date page uses those (now non-existant) redirects...for example: 2001. Thoughts?TabbyCallie (talk) 03:52, October 30, 2019 (UTC)
I doubt those are needed, honestly. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:58, October 30, 2019 (UTC)

Tasha Wright

I think I screwed up Tasha Wright’s page. I just wanted to post that the youngest sister’s name is Lola. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fido555 (talk • contribs).

Fixed. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:02, July 27, 2019 (UTC)


Please explain to me how removing incorrect information, replacing it with correct information, and fixing a grammatically crap paragraph is not necessary? 

AoifeRising (talk) 05:19, August 4, 2019 (UTC)

All of the changes that I could see was you making a whole bunch of new, smaller paragraphs, which was unnecessary. What exactly was wrong about the info and grammar in the first place? Season Fourteen (talk) 06:54, August 4, 2019 (UTC)

Tobias Moore

Why delete the majority of details from Tobias Moore. It is perfect the way it was. There is absolutely zero reason to delete any of it. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:11, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

I don't really trust you to take care of character summaries anymore. I already explained much of it on HighJewElfKing's talk page, but more recently, your treatment of the Ron Duca article has me worried. Having watched Real Fake News, I know for a fact it didn't go down the way you described it. I still have to fact-check a number of other articles you created as well, most especially Rob Miller. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:17, October 6, 2019 (UTC)
I firmly believe I explained it adequately. This is getting to the point where it’s becoming ridiculous. These are issues you had in May and you still have them, which is becoming petty. If I’m so bad at character summaries as you claim I am, why don’t you do them instead of making extremely minor edits. There is a heck of a lot of information needed, particularly for Tobias Moore, a recent character, and you not filling it in doesn’t make you any better of an editor yourself. People come for information and you’re not giving it to them, which I find extremely frustrating, as do other people I know. Another example of this is Heath Barron and Cici Taylor. You said you would add more information to them at the start of the year, I am still waiting for that information to be entered. Where is it? Focus on adding information to pages instead of making minor edits which hardly matter. This would be a big improvement on your behalf. Ryanfellowsfitts23 (talk) 05:31, October 6, 2019 (UTC)
If you're talking about Ron Duca, it doesn't seem like you watched the actual episode if you made those errors. Duca was never considered a journalist in any official capacity (who would be if all one ever does is write fake news?) and he never went on trial for a crime in the episode. They were simply trying to find out who his sources were and he was trying to invoke confidentiality by claiming to be a journalist.
As for why I haven't gotten around to filling up all those articles, I was still juggling between school and searching for a streaming site that wouldn't require me to create an account or run me the risk of planting a virus in my computer, because I don't have access to any of the channels that usually air SVU on my TV. Fortunately, I did find such a site a couple of months back but I never got around to taking care of things because school got crazy at one point.
Since you've graciously reminded me, you'll see proof my findings later tonight. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:41, October 6, 2019 (UTC)

SVU - Katriona Tamin

Hi! I saw you undid my edit about Kat being an officer and not a detective. Maybe I missed something but as to the last episode she still identify herself as "Officer" and not detective. I thought that the precision was worth it. More so that Liv was unhappy that her hierarchy sent them a "white shield" (officer) and not a detective as she asked.

I am a newbie so the question is genuine.EiwenMacLor (talk) 20:38, November 8, 2019 (UTC)

Ask Ryanfellowsfitts23 about it. I currently don't have any access to the newest episodes at all, and I'm just taking their word for it. Season Fourteen (talk) 21:01, November 8, 2019 (UTC)
I understand. This is what I know: since her first appearance she is referred to as "officer", she identify as such and she wear a white shield (which is the officer's ones). Detectives have different, golden shields. I really rewatch all the episode she appears in (carefully). I am aware you don't know me, I am a newbie etc. but I would not do an edit if I had not checked.
If you are interested in a site to watch the newest episodes, I can suggest one.
Either way, thanks for answering. EiwenMacLor (talk) 21:11, November 8, 2019 (UTC)
Again, ask Ryan about it. Don't try to explain it to me. Season Fourteen (talk) 21:20, November 8, 2019 (UTC)

Invitation to join the advisor program

Hello! I'm Sannse, from Fandom's Editor Experience team. I'm contacting you as the most recently active admin. Hopefully you can pass this on to others as needed.

One project that we're excited about launching is an initiative to pair newly registered users with experienced advisors (which they can choose from). These advisors would be available for answering basic editing questions and guiding appropriate edits, in the hope that these users will become active in the local community.

Why do this, rather than rely on admins and moderators? We've seen from research and experience (both from Wikipedia) that establishing a human bond with a peer "senpai" or mentor can have a better effect on the comfort of the newcomer, especially where the high volume of edits may cause the quick response of rollbacks rather than taking the time to walk new editors through their early work. While some communities do take that time and care among their leaders, we feel an additional level might put new users at ease and help them be more comfortable with editing. Ultimately, we feel like this project will either free up some time for admins and moderators, or designate them as approachable welcomers to talk to and guide new users. We want to see how effective this is on a relatively small number of communities and see if Fandom's results are consistent with those experienced on Wikipedia. If they are, we may pursue expanding the pilot program and perhaps seeking to build it into a core part of the new platform.

Here's what we would wish for your community to agree to:

  • At least one volunteer advisor, acting as an advisor and advocate helping newcomers. For the most part, this means responding to questions that newcomers leave the advisor in Discussions. Sometimes this may mean the advisor interacts with admins and moderators to address concerns regarding the newcomer. We have some advisors-at-large (those not tied to the local community, but available as fallbacks) already, but if you have ideas on who you might want to represent you in this role (or if you'd like to do so yourself!), feel free to contact me on my Wall.
  • Discussions / Feeds. Your community must have this active for the current solution to work. This is the primary method in which advisors have open communication with the users that choose them. We also recommend a Feeds channel of “Help Desk” where the communications can be placed, if you do not have a similar channel.
  • A change to your Welcome Messages to allow a method where a newcomer can choose an advisor. If you are currently participating in the MyDashboard program, there will be a card there to interact with an advisor. -- Sannse @fandom (help forum | blog) 01:45, December 15, 2019 (UTC)


No. Definitely not.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 17:55, December 15, 2019 (UTC)

Oh god no!!! I'm seriously offended that you think I'm that guy. When I create an article for a Wiki (and I'm active on many and an Admin myself on two very active ones), I prefer to write it and then figure out the categories later. With this Wiki, I've only created a few pages so I'm pretty new at that. I was kind of trying to figure out which categories matched too when I wrote those pages last night. I wrote those pages in one go, posted and then figured out the categories. If you look at my page on here, its says I've been active since 2009 I think. That other guy has only been on here, what, a few months??? I have no reason to have some shady second account, I was just watching several episodes on Hulu last night and updated some pages that seemed a little lacking and created a couple that seemed like they needed it. The rules for the information on pages here is probably a little different than I'm used to since I'm not a major contributor on this site, more here and there.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 21:47, December 15, 2019 (UTC)
For what??? I barely pay attention to what that guy does!!! I've only noticed him a few times when a page change pops up in my notifications and you revert it. I can't believe you actually think we're the same person!!! Are you seriously accusing me of that??? That's a pretty big accusation to make especially since its untrue. I thought you were kidding when you asked at first frankly!!! I'm an Admin myself, I know what its like to have to deal with idiots and their sock puppet accounts!!! I would never do that to someone. God a couple of times I had to spend most of the night dealing with a vandal who kept creating sock puppets just so he could vandalize pages. He started out the first time by doing it from various unregistered accounts before I managed to figure out how to disable unregistered editing but even that didn't stop him for long. I was the only active Admin that night too. God what a mess that was.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 21:57, December 15, 2019 (UTC)
My edit count??? What's that got to do with anything??? The only Wiki I know that that's important on is Halopedia because it gives you points and titles or something like that based on the amount of edits you make.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 22:09, December 15, 2019 (UTC)

Re: Creating Character Pages

I actually was looking at existing character articles for templates for when I created Eugene O'Hanigan and Tom Metcalf. I planned to come back and add more detail as I hadn't finished working on the pages. Thanks though for the advice anyway.Thenchick 01:47, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

Nadine Lachere

Why do you keep deleting this page? I was still working on fleshing it out when you deleted it both times. Thenchick 01:25, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

Not notable. Season Fourteen (talk) 01:25, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Actor Infobox

Originally when I was trying to edit it, it was to add a way for links to the personal sites of the people as IMBD isn't always acurate with all of their credits. However it didn't work and I tried to revert the edit. Instead the infobox continued to look the way it does now. I did try to fix it though. Thenchick 23:06, January 13, 2020 (UTC)

According to your edit summary, you "updated [it] using the portable infobox migration tool". Presuming this tool was responsible for all the changes, was that supposed to be the plan? Season Fourteen (talk) 23:11, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
It wouldn't let me revert it back with that tool. The original plan was to be able to add other sites to the infobox under the imbd link. When it didn't work, I tried to fix it but it just caused all the imbd links to only show the code for the pages. Thenchick 23:19, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
No, I'm talking about you using the tool when you made the original changes, not the reversions. I'm well aware of not being able to revert with that tool. Season Fourteen (talk) 23:23, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
I only tried to edit the source code, but it didn't work the way I hoped it would. The tool had only changed the way the code was set to look but instead it messed up the way looks on the infobox pages. I have been trying to hunt down the pages that utilize the box to fix the links on each page. Thenchick 23:28, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
Next time you decide to edit an infobox template, go to an admin with your intentions first so something else can be worked out if needs be. In the meantime, I'll try and get some outside help on the issue, because the tool keeps getting in the way of my reversions. Season Fourteen (talk) 23:31, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
Okay.Thenchick 01:16, January 14, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Your edits

Why don't you add events on this wiki? It's a courtroom drama series so that court cases should be learned about. Merusharma (talk) 02:58, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

Is it all right if I created new infoboxes that give more detailed, specific information?Merusharma (talk) 03:10, January 21, 2020 (UTC)
Episode and character articles are enough description for events. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:38, January 21, 2020 (UTC)

Page Deletion

Why was the David McElwee page deleted? I'm just wondering as there was no reason listed for the deletion. Thanks Thenchick 04:33, January 22, 2020 (UTC)

Not enough notability to justify having an article. Season Fourteen (talk) 05:11, January 22, 2020 (UTC)

Are you kidding me, there are a ton of women in the Law and Order series that had their shoes slipped off their feets while filming, because the dumb detectives don't know the barefeet. Can we have a category for this???

  • Alona Landau, Traci Kwon, Marjorie Riggins and eight (?, I think it was eight but there's some more) other women had their slipped off and you reverted my edits? I was just telling the truth and I watched those episodes. Shoes slipped off feet deaths?

I wish I could find a video making of Lindsey Rose Sinclair's character when she died and fall off where her shoe slipped off her feet. For the two other said women, do we have a making of the episode/behind the scenes video where their shoes slipped off? If you could just tell me where and why... The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tawana Smith 45 (talk • contribs).

There is absolutely NOTHING worth noting about it. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:25, February 4, 2020 (UTC)
Well, are you the kids of me! (kidding me) I will really like Behind the scenes videos of those scenes, sad face. I'll love to know
Tawana Smith 45 (talk) 04:32, February 4, 2020 (UTC)


Hello. I introduce myself, my username is Johnse09, I am an administrator at Doblaje Wiki, dedicated to research and identification of dubbing in Latin American Spanish. I have been following L&O SVU and L&O CI currently, and it is reflected in my extensive contribution to the articles of La ley y el orden: Unidad de víctimas especiales and La ley y el orden: Intento criminal.

The reason for this presentation is, as you know that I am not a user who is editing anything, and on the other hand I know that you are the administrator and I understand that you are concerned about being constantly watching about editing in the articles and avoiding some vandalism or things too unnecessary, doing what an administrator should do and is that's good. However, I can't help feeling annoyed at the way you reverse my editions without justification and seeing that you undid my last update, I decided to come and talk to you, after thinking about it for a long time.

I recently watched the SVU on TV in my language and the character Bob the builder is named at the beginning of the episode "Control", for the girl who goes with her grandfather down the escalator, I made sure to know if in the original language it was said character mentioned. Although it is not relevant to the central theme of the episode, the references are usually that, it mentions of various cultural things that sometimes do not link directly - in this case - to the series.

I hope we can get to an understanding, but if you keep in that position I'll let it that way.

Greetings. -Johnse09 (talk) 06:03, February 17, 2020 (UTC)

Your new Wiki Manager

Hey there! I'm Cörey, the new Wiki Manager for the Law and Order wiki. I'll be taking over for HighJewElfKing.

Just like Charlie, I'm here to help out however I can just let me know! You can usually find me on Discord (my username is penguinstyles#9735), however, I'm happy to use whatever contact medium you prefer.

If you have any questions for me, please let me know. I'll try to respond to them as quickly as I can.

I'm really looking forward to working with you!

-- Cörey (talk) @fandom 03:04, March 12, 2020 (UTC)

Welcome! Good to have you with us! :D Season Fourteen (talk) 04:21, March 12, 2020 (UTC)

Creating Charts

Is it all right if I used charts to display the cases that have been issued in articles with judges, ADAs, and defense attorneys? The charts would include information like what cases are issued on which date, the prosecutor, the defense attorney, and the defendant's names.

Merusharma (talk) 19:55, March 12, 2020 (UTC)

No need. Season Fourteen (talk) 20:35, March 12, 2020 (UTC)

Tom Landricks

i understand you were not ok with what i did with my edit for the Tom Landricks article. the main reasoning for the edit is because the photo on the "Tom Landricks" article is not Tom landricks. the photo you have posted on the page was James Randall and not Tom Landricks. my apologies for what i did, i will not make this mistake again

thank you The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dorjee Gyamtso (talk • contribs).

Next time you see an error like that, you need to bring it to my attention, or that of another admin. Also, removing the entire infobox is not the same thing as solving the photo problem. Please make sure you become familiar with how this Wikia works. Thank you. Season Fourteen (talk) 23:53, March 22, 2020 (UTC)

Christopher Meloni

Hey, look at this, you're going to get busier. :) Christopher Meloni As ‘SVU’ Character Elliot Stabler To Headline New Dick Wolf Drama Series For NBC

--Wildrose-Wally (talk) 00:14, April 1, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I already saw this. Will see what I can do when I have the time. Season Fourteen (talk) 01:23, April 1, 2020 (UTC)

Nicole Wallace/Madeline Haynes

I recently saw a theory that Nicole Wallace from Law & Order: Criminal Intent and Madeline Haynes from French criminal series Jo they would be the same person. What is this strange story? If true, how did Nicole Wallace manage to survive the confrontation with Robert Goren? I really need to know this whole story, because this is very strange. The preceding unsigned comment was added by ImperadorMusashimaruBH (talk • contribs).

I'm not as well-versed with the Criminal Intent lore as I am with other L&O shows, so I can't answer that question. Sorry. Season Fourteen (talk) 00:16, April 14, 2020 (UTC)

 Disambiguation Pages

There are some pages that have their name appear in episodes they're not in but instead characters that have the same name as them do. For example the actor Jonathan Freeman has the same name as a character in the Law and Order episode "Girlfriends", as a result of this the link put in for Jonathan was the wrong article. There is another article of the character Frank Lowell, who is in the episode "Starved" but in the episode "Malignant" there is a character named Frank Lowell whose link is directed to the wrong Frank Lowell. If you could make a disambiguation page for these people that would be great. I'm just asking so if it's not okay to make disambiguation pages without your permission I won't get in trouble. Randomgamer111 (talk) 17:00, April 18, 2020 (UTC)

SVU: Episode: Anihilated: Malcolm Royce

Im curious if You have free Acess to this Episode becuz I have some questions becuz most events are non-sense in my Opinion?(Rajaram12345678910 (talk) 18:48, April 20, 2020 (UTC)).

Ripped from the headlines articles

Dude why do you keep undoing my analysis of the real life cases of law & order episodes, do you know how much time I spent researching old newspaper articles for cases that don't have Wikipedia entries. I like what I do but then you go and change them back. its annoying I don't mind when you correct my grammar that's ok btw. (DanDud88 (talk) 09:45, April 24, 2020 (UTC))

It keeps getting lengthy. The ripped from the headlines articles are fine enough. Season Fourteen (talk) 09:47, April 24, 2020 (UTC)


Because of the mention about all the L&O original characters (Cragen, Logan, Briscoe, and more) I think it was good to say that there exists a first character from an spin off which is transferred to another. -Johnse09 (talk) 00:24, May 27, 2020 (UTC)

Except that wasn't Stabler in L&O. It was a completely different character. Season Fourteen (talk) 06:04, May 27, 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation Pages Part 2

There is another page in the Criminal Intent episode, "The War at Home" there is a character named Sean McCourt but there is also an actor named Sean McCourt. Could you do the same thing as you have done with Frank Lowell and Jonathan FreemanRandomgamer111 (talk) 02:18, June 1, 2020 (UTC)

You can rename the article, then find the created redirect and edit it to create the disambiguation article. Season Fourteen (talk) 03:57, June 1, 2020 (UTC)

            Thank you! I wanted to know how to do that. Randomgamer111 (talk) 16:15, June 1, 2020 (UTC)


Could you delete the Criminal Intent episode Poet? It isn't the name of the actual episode and the real name of it is Passion. I tried to make it a canditate for deletion but I can't find the tag for it. Randomgamer111 (talk) 16:13, June 1, 2020 (UTC)

Law & Order: LA Production Order

I have changed the episode list to "sortable", so the episodes still list by airdate, but if you want to watch them in the proper order, you can sort them by production number and watch them the way they should be watched. Wildrose-Wally (talk) 13:42, June 14, 2020 (UTC)

Law & Order: Organized Crime

On March 31, 2020, Wolf announced that the spin-off series has ordered for NBC to launch in the 2020–21 television, with Christopher Meloni reprising his role as Elliot Stabler, who left SVU nine-years later. The series will consist of 13 episodes.] On June 2, 2020, it was announced that the series would be called Law & Order: Organized Crime and showrunner Craig Gore has been fired.

Wildrose-Wally (talk) 04:30, June 16, 2020 (UTC)

Delete Pages

Could you please delete these pages? They are useless. Thanks. The preceding unsigned comment was added by ThomasBisaschi (talk • contribs).



Rajaram block

Hello I am Mr. Blankvillager, Rajaram12345678910 is a friend of mine. May I ask why he was blocked? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blankvillager (talk • contribs).

For constantly spamming talk pages with questions about episode access, which no one has. Season Fourteen (talk) 00:09, June 19, 2020 (UTC)
Can u give Rajaram12345678910 one more chance? Blankvillager (talk) 20:06, June 20, 2020 (UTC)

Episode scene cards

How do you like them on Hollywood? There are no screen cards on Law & Order: LA right now. Wildrose-Wally (talk) 14:38, June 20, 2020 (UTC)

Questionable template

Hey Season Fourteen, hope you are doing well. I was hoping you could look at or even delete a "questionable" template I found while editing. The name of the template is the same as the page I found it on: Edward Crandall. Seems to be a clunky version of the character inforbox, so I switched it on the page. Afterwards I saw the person who created the template also created the page, which to me doesn't make sense. Why create an infobox for one single character? Get back to me soon and hope you are staying safe out there. Hito7187199 (talk) 04:18, July 7, 2020 (UTC)

I'll look into it. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:33, July 7, 2020 (UTC)
I've determined the user in question is a sockpuppet account of another new user and have blocked the alternate account as such. Because the user wasn't using the sock account to evade a block, I've decided to leave the master account unblocked for now, but I will indef them if it ever comes down to it. Thank you for pointing me in their direction. Season Fourteen (talk) 04:50, July 7, 2020 (UTC)

Hank Abraham edit

Is there a reason you chose to undo my change to Hank Abraham's article? Celeron32 (talk) 08:37, July 27, 2020 (UTC)

Just because someone is sentenced to four years in prison, it doesn't mean their sentence has elapsed by now. Until we get confirmation from the show on what his current status is, he is, by all means and purposes, still technically imprisoned, and anything assuming otherwise is just pure, baseless speculation. Season Fourteen (talk) 08:42, July 27, 2020 (UTC)

Linden Delroy

Hey Season Fourteen, hope you are doing well and staying safe out there. I found something weird that I don't know how to fix. The picture shown of this character is not a picture of the character the page describes, it is actually a picture of the attorney Linus Tate portrayed by David Pittu (Just to be clear, there are two seperate photos of Linus Tate on both pages). Is there a way to change the image the file is supposed to display or should the photo be removed altogether? Hito7187199 (talk) 03:23, August 6, 2020 (UTC)

It depends. If you have a new photo and it's a .jpeg file, then you can simply replace the image. If it's not a .jpeg file, then the photo on the article has to be deleted and replaced. Season Fourteen (talk) 07:06, August 6, 2020 (UTC)
I found a photo to use. Turns out the one who originally posted the photo mistakenly changed it thinking Tate was actually Delroy. I have made the necessary corrections by reverting the photo and you are free to double check my work if necessary. Hito7187199 (talk) 07:27, August 6, 2020 (UTC)
Okay. Season Fourteen (talk) 07:32, August 6, 2020 (UTC)

Upcoming UCP migration

Hey there! It's been a while since I've heard from you, I hope you're staying safe and healthy.

As you are probably aware, Fandom is currently in the process of migrating their communities over to the Unified Community Platform (UCP). These migrations were temporarily paused in order to resolve some issues that began to appear. This pause has ended and your community will be migrated over to the UCP within the next couple weeks.

I wanted to check in in the meantime and try to see if you have any questions or concerns? Please let me know!

× Cörey (talk) @fandom 15:36, September 15, 2020 (UTC)

What sort of changes will this migration entail? Season Fourteen (talk) 20:24, September 15, 2020 (UTC)
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